What happened, and often happens, is that the LCR tries to see pro-gay acts in Republicans when there are none. Palin is a fine example – there is no evidence she is anything but anti-gay rights. Not just against gay marriage, but against benefits for DPs. Yet, the LRC claims she is inclusive – based on what?

Same with McCain. He may be good for ‘core’ republican vlaues, but not for gay rights. So, support him if you want, but don’t try to spin him as good for gays.

He’s not.

And I’m sorry, but I continue to think that any person who doesn’t believe that they deserve equal protection under the law either hates themselves or the Constitution. If you disagree with non-discrimination, then fight to get rid of non-discrimination, but that’s not what the GOP is doing. They are fighting to keep non-discrimination laws for the groups they are a part of, but only to prevent gay people from gaining the same protection under the law that they themselves enjoy. You’re fooling yourself if you think fighting ENDA is anything other than fighting gay people.

Lastly, I think that most people, gay or straight, consider all of the issues and vote for either the candidate that most closely matches their ideology or at least the closest match that actually has a chance at winning. But for many gay people, a primary issue is whether the government views them as legit citizens. If gay people aren’t viewed as legitimate citizens in the first place, than you can live in whatever world would be a utopia for you and not benefit one ounce because none of it would apply to you.

Taking the position that, if you’re gay, you either hate Republicans or hate yourself, is simplistic and not very insightful.

I would hope that gay people would consider all of the issues and vote for the candidate that most closely match their ideology. That makes for an informed electorate casting considered votes. The only morons are those that allow themselves to be used and taken for granted by their party.

That’s not logic that I can even begin to understand.

Today, I was taken by surprise. Your use of the phrase “self-hating Log Cabin crowd” was vacuous. I am completely out as a gay man. For the last few years, I have been a member of the Log Cabin Republicans. I attended the LCR convention a couple of years ago in D.C. and was part of a group that went to Sen. Frist’s office to lobby on several issues important to gay people. I was president of Nashville Pride and chair or co-chair the Nashville Pride festival for 3 years. I wrote a column entitled “Conservative Tendencies” for one of the local gay papers. I have supported numerous gay causes. My credentials as an out, gay man who is involved in the community are well established. But, most importantly, I do not hate myself nor have I met any other gay Republicans who hate themselves. We can disagree on issues and disagree on the relative importance of issues without stooping to smears.

Do you really think LCR folks are “self-hating?” Was that just a glib throw-away line? Am I overreacting?

On the other hand, you gotta love this quote:

McCain wants to pull in Hillary voters, so he thinks he’ll accomplish this by picking a younger, prettier, but immensely less-qualified woman than Clinton to get the promotion she didn’t? Becuase, you know, middle-age women LOVE that story?

There’s still alot of Hillary supporters (though a minority of them) who have made it clear that they have no problem abandoning their liberal principles and ideals if going conservative would put a woman in the White House.

I disagree. The only thing progressivist women hate more than pro-life men is pro-life women. They are the feminist equivalent of Uncle Toms.