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	<title>Comments on: Leave It to the Professionals - Part 2</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dolphin</title>
		<link>http://www.dolphinsdock.com/2008/02/25/leave-it-to-the-professionals-part-2/#comment-617</link>
		<dc:creator>dolphin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with a number of your assertions, but the key is this:  Writing the professionals off as only an option for the lazy, timid, etc, leaves you with one less option and that option that is sometimes the best one to take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with a number of your assertions, but the key is this:  Writing the professionals off as only an option for the lazy, timid, etc, leaves you with one less option and that option that is sometimes the best one to take.</p>
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		<title>By: mostlygenius</title>
		<link>http://www.dolphinsdock.com/2008/02/25/leave-it-to-the-professionals-part-2/#comment-616</link>
		<dc:creator>mostlygenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the discussion on my blog. 

The pros are frequently a false sense of security. You assume a greater disparity between the competence or relevant ability of the pros and the novices than really exists. Relevant ability is key here. Shooting is a novice skill, knowing what to shoot, and when is the hard part. The less ambiguous the situation the easier it is to solve. Active Shooters are not ambiguous, and from the prospective of a potential victim are much more of a marksmanship problem rather than a tactical one.

I would also point out that a "pro" like the average police officer has far less range time than the average avid hobbyist shooter. A hobbyist shooter is totally unconcerned with learning or understanding department use of force policy, traffic law, or the rules of evidence - standard components police academy training. In my state the firearms training block for police officers in the academy is roughly 40 hours. 40 hours is easily surpassed by most people who like to shoot in a few weekends.

I would also point out that based upon the state of world in the last decade that in any in any classroom gathering of students that it is entirely likely that at least one has prior military service and training, and quite possibly extensive combat experience. I would have no problem saying that a USMC vet of Falluja taking advantage of the GI bill is more of a 'pro' when it comes to shooting people who are trying to kill them than a cop just out of the academy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the discussion on my blog. </p>
<p>The pros are frequently a false sense of security. You assume a greater disparity between the competence or relevant ability of the pros and the novices than really exists. Relevant ability is key here. Shooting is a novice skill, knowing what to shoot, and when is the hard part. The less ambiguous the situation the easier it is to solve. Active Shooters are not ambiguous, and from the prospective of a potential victim are much more of a marksmanship problem rather than a tactical one.</p>
<p>I would also point out that a &#8220;pro&#8221; like the average police officer has far less range time than the average avid hobbyist shooter. A hobbyist shooter is totally unconcerned with learning or understanding department use of force policy, traffic law, or the rules of evidence - standard components police academy training. In my state the firearms training block for police officers in the academy is roughly 40 hours. 40 hours is easily surpassed by most people who like to shoot in a few weekends.</p>
<p>I would also point out that based upon the state of world in the last decade that in any in any classroom gathering of students that it is entirely likely that at least one has prior military service and training, and quite possibly extensive combat experience. I would have no problem saying that a USMC vet of Falluja taking advantage of the GI bill is more of a &#8216;pro&#8217; when it comes to shooting people who are trying to kill them than a cop just out of the academy.</p>
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		<title>By: Southern Beale</title>
		<link>http://www.dolphinsdock.com/2008/02/25/leave-it-to-the-professionals-part-2/#comment-604</link>
		<dc:creator>Southern Beale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dolphin -- &lt;a href="http://sobeale.blogspot.com/2008/02/tag-im-it.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;you've been tagged&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dolphin &#8212; <a href="http://sobeale.blogspot.com/2008/02/tag-im-it.html" rel="nofollow">you&#8217;ve been tagged</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: MadRocketSci</title>
		<link>http://www.dolphinsdock.com/2008/02/25/leave-it-to-the-professionals-part-2/#comment-592</link>
		<dc:creator>MadRocketSci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wholeheartedly agree, there are certainly times when it is best to leave it to the pros.  The trick is knowing when you can help yourself, and when you need help.  Getting some of the training that I mentioned over at &lt;a href="http://thelineishere.org/?p=109" rel="nofollow"&gt;TheLineIsHere&lt;/a&gt; can help give you the tools and knowledge to know when you have reached your limit and need help, or when not doing anything is actually the right thing to do (case in point, after my motorcycle wreck so many years ago, someone wanted to remove my helmet and check me for head trauma, luckily I was alert enough to tell them NO!, since if a cyclist with a helmet has head trauma, that helmet might be busy holding it all in, so to speak).  You may not like my politics, but that does not make the training any less valuable.

While you can't train to be a master at everything, having a working knowledge can at least equip you make accurate evaluations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree, there are certainly times when it is best to leave it to the pros.  The trick is knowing when you can help yourself, and when you need help.  Getting some of the training that I mentioned over at <a href="http://thelineishere.org/?p=109" rel="nofollow">TheLineIsHere</a> can help give you the tools and knowledge to know when you have reached your limit and need help, or when not doing anything is actually the right thing to do (case in point, after my motorcycle wreck so many years ago, someone wanted to remove my helmet and check me for head trauma, luckily I was alert enough to tell them NO!, since if a cyclist with a helmet has head trauma, that helmet might be busy holding it all in, so to speak).  You may not like my politics, but that does not make the training any less valuable.</p>
<p>While you can&#8217;t train to be a master at everything, having a working knowledge can at least equip you make accurate evaluations.</p>
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